Tougher Video Game Rating System Coming?

Byron Review 'leaked'

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Tanya Byron... not reporting yet.
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The The Scotsman's sister paper, Scotland on Sunday, claims that the UK government is preparing to use the Byron Review, which is not officially published until next month, to introduce more stringent controls on video game content.

The report states, "Video games will get movie-style age ratings under a Government plan to tackle the growing fear that exposure to on-screen sex and violence is warping a generation of children".

This was then followed up by UK industry journal, MCV, which stated, "A Whitehall leak to Scotland On Sunday last week suggested that Brown was ready to introduce an aggressive ‘crackdown’ on violent video games in the wake of the Byron Review, which will recommend the introduction of BBFC ratings for all software titles when it is published next month".

An unnamed MCV source, who was inside a recent closed-door session chaired by Tanya Byron, is then quoted as saying, "It was pretty much agreed by all parties – publishing, retailers and parents and Government – that there needs to be one rating system for transparency’s sake, whether that be the BBFC or something more voluntary.

"But there’s a definite fear that (Prime Minister Gordon) Brown will aggressively present this to the media and public as ‘we are fighting the industry for your kids’ safety’. Nothing could be further from the truth, and Tanya Byron knows that".

We contacted the the press office for the Department for Children, Schools & Families - the government department overseeing the review - to get more information, and we were told, "There hasn’t been a leak. For background it was a PMQ (Prime Minister's Questions) that prompted the Scotland on Sunday story".

We were then referred to the response Gordon Brown made to Parliament on January 16th (reported here on SPOnG) in which Brown stated (in part), "It is right that we look again at the classification system for those games and at what is happening on the internet in influencing young children. That is why the Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families has set up the Byron review, in which Dr. Tanya Byron is looking at these very issues."

Brown was responding to Leicester East MP (and longtime anti-game agitator), Keith Vaz, who precursed his question with the not at all weighted statement, "On Monday, the Prime Minister said that he was very worried about the content of video and computer games. Some of those games, such as Manhunt 2, depict scenes of torture and murder using hammers, knives and guns..."

So, we contacted Scotland on Sunday's Westminster editor, Jenny Percival - who wrote the original story - and asked her about the 'leak' and the detail of the story. Jenny explained that her story had indeed been kicked off with the PMQ from January 16th. She had then questioned - among others both within and without the industry - Keith Vaz. He spoke about about what he (and here's the key word) "expected" to see from the review when it is published in March - not what is in it.

Finally we were offered the official joint statement from the Department for Children, Schools & Families and Department for Culture Media and Sport in response to The Scotland on Sunday report.

“We can't pre-empt the outcome of the review and will be considering it very carefully when Dr Byron submits her report. Nothing has been ruled out, but we're not considering a particular course of action at this stage. We're waiting to see what Dr Byron's report says.”


As you would expect, absolutely nothing more than smoke and mirrors once again. Nothing is being considered in particular but nothing as been ruled out... until the report is made public. This publication date is, however, still a moveable feast floating around sometime in March.

Our sources within the industry tell us that the Byron Review process has been met with surprised approval. This is largely down to the good doctor's identifying issues not only from the point of a view of a government in need of something to blame for society's ills but from those of the UK video games industry and from gamers.

The problem for the report, however, is that the government (and opposition) requires something to blame for what Middle England sees as society falling apart at the seams. And let's face it - with the UK industry rapidly departing (with its revenues) to more creatively-friendly countries - the government can't look at more obvious targets; for example, mighty supermarket chains selling the wares of massive brewing concerns as loss leaders. Or vast amounts of cash being thrown at fighting wars on behalf of religious obsessives both at home and across the Atlantic?

Sources: The Scotsman
MCV

Comments

irritant 8 Feb 2008 12:51
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Simple solution for the industry: Don't use realistic graphics in any game that could be considered violent. Use cartoon-like GFX such as in Team Fortress 2 and the problem goes away.
James 8 Feb 2008 13:41
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:irritant?? are you being sarcastic, a cartoon GTA4, or a cartoon resident evil.

why not just make all horror and gangster films cartoons and ban them if they aren't cartoons, if your serious I suggest you go back to the daily mail forums.

Hopefully tanya won't go all self righteous and screw the videogames industry over by making it a scapegoat, if the UK is to become like germany with a ban on red blood and everything violoent then I predict a massive increase in importing and piracy, there is no way in hell i'm playing a watered down version of GTA4 or Resi 5.
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tyrion 8 Feb 2008 14:54
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James wrote:
Hopefully tanya won't go all self righteous and screw the videogames industry over by making it a scapegoat

It doesn't matter what the Byron report says or recommends, the government can bend the words to fit the pre-decided policy it wants to pursue.

One piece of supporting evidence that is dismissed in the summary can be leaked to the press and they can be expected to splash it all over the front pages, ignoring the conclusions of the report completely. Then the government releases a quiet disapproval statement that the findings are being ignored by the press, waits for the public outcry from Middle England and then cracks down on games because of the "concerns of the public".

And all the way through it, the government is seen as even-handed because it commissioned a report that was lauded by the trade body of the games industry.
settingsun 8 Feb 2008 15:19
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So who thinks we arent going to see gta 4 released in the uk??? do you think his is going to lead to a ban on anything with the slightest violence?? if it does my 360 will not been seeing much action in the future as all well get is sports racing and kids games
TimSpong 8 Feb 2008 15:44
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irritant wrote:
Simple solution for the industry: Don't use realistic graphics in any game that could be considered violent. Use cartoon-like GFX such as in Team Fortress 2 and the problem goes away.


If the recent advice from Mr Justice Mitting on the question of 'harm' is anything to go by, rendering all characters as stick figures with puppy faces won't be enough (scary image actually). It's the likelihood of 'potential harm' caused by playing this sick filth that's in question.

Also, cartoons get rated as well - see Crying Freeman from 1997(!) and its 18 rating.

Cheers

Tim
Bentley 8 Feb 2008 16:30
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irritant wrote:
Simple solution for the industry: Don't use realistic graphics in any game that could be considered violent. Use cartoon-like GFX such as in Team Fortress 2 and the problem goes away.


Yeah, pander to those who want to censor entertainments for all adults as well as the kids. What a load of guff.

I'd much rather play Call of Duty 4 than Team Fortress. Any day of the week. Censoring is NOT the way forward. If they want to reinforce CLASSIFICATION, fine. But NOT censorship. Censorship sucks balls. We are supposed to be free, in a free society, and have freedom to choose, once we reach adulthood. The way forward is to educate and inform the parents of children playing the games, and the retailers selling the games. Not blame the games industry for providing the entertainment in the first place.

The classification system has been in place for as long as I can remember. If there really is a problem, it's GOT to be with the parents. And any parent that says "Oh, I did not even know that my child had a 360/PS3" needs to pay more attention to their kids. And if a shop sells an 18-rated game to an under-age kid, then the parents need to complain TO THE SHOP, and not to the publisher of the game. If my 8 year old kid went out and bought a hard-core porn film from a local store, is that the fault of the porn industry? Or the bloke in the shop he bought it from?

It's the same old bullshit from the government, because they know most parents don't give a f**k, and they can see the games industry as a giant cash-cow that they might be able to wangle yet more money from. Pathetic. It's about time we had a revolution... this country is getting ridiculous. They've already ruined life outside the home for me and so many of my friends by breaking all the pubs (with the ridiculous non-smoking thing), and now they want, once again, to break my hobby inside the home by screwing up my games with censorship as if I'm a child. Well, no more. NO MORE!
soanso 8 Feb 2008 16:46
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The problem with games ratings is that the system is basically meaningless.
For videos the law is upheld but for games it's just lip service.
I'm quite happy to have tough games ratings. Tougher ratings would be a good thing, it might make things like the Manhunt situation a thing of the past.
If the game was quite clearly marked "Adults Only" would we have such a farce going on?

I'd like this attitude of useless parents, (hmm why do I specify 'useless'?) aye anyway, I don't like this attitude of "it's only a game".
So someone will buy little Johnny a 360 and see no difference between him playing Shrek, Lego Star Wars or GTA4. Games aimed at a completely different audience.

But then even putting a Channel 4 style red triangle to warn of adult content probably won't help these parents since they're too busy looking for the alun key to build their flat packed furniture or burling around in their God-damned SUV's destroying the environment.
E-Henry 8 Feb 2008 16:52
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18 rated content should be stored on a high, intimidating shelf, just like pornography. Maybe put warning signs up like "DANGER - COULD WARP YOUR MIND". It never put me off pornography and I doubt I'll feel particularly ashamed reaching for GTA IV - but it will shut the mums and grans out of the equation.

Simpleton council estate mums are (in many ways) the problem.
James 8 Feb 2008 16:58
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I would hate to see GTA4 get banned, but I think the backlash from gamers and the industry would be huge if it did get banned or censored. This is THE game of this generation so far, bigger than halo, mario and MGS put together.

if it does get banned i;m quitting my job and going to spong off the dole, don't see the point in working, paying taxes if you can't have a little fun and enjoyment.
irritant 8 Feb 2008 18:06
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Bentley wrote:

Yeah, pander to those who want to censor entertainments for all adults as well as the kids. What a load of guff.

I'd much rather play Call of Duty 4 than Team Fortress. Any day of the week.


Actually, I'm not saying any game should be banned or changed to keep people happy, I'm saying if/when they do ban any violent games that look realistic, switch to cartoon graphics as cartoons are largely ignored. Look at Itchy & Scratchy shown on mainstream TV at tea time.

If you are saying you prefer CoD4 to TF2 simply because of the different visual style, then you are playing games for a much different reason to myself. If you are saying you prefer it because of gameplay (for me, the only reason I play games), then that comment is pretty irrelevant.
cox 8 Feb 2008 22:29
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irritant wrote:
Bentley wrote:

Yeah, pander to those who want to censor entertainments for all adults as well as the kids. What a load of guff.

I'd much rather play Call of Duty 4 than Team Fortress. Any day of the week.


Actually, I'm not saying any game should be banned or changed to keep people happy, I'm saying if/when they do ban any violent games that look realistic, switch to cartoon graphics as cartoons are largely ignored. Look at Itchy & Scratchy shown on mainstream TV at tea time.

If you are saying you prefer CoD4 to TF2 simply because of the different visual style, then you are playing games for a much different reason to myself. If you are saying you prefer it because of gameplay (for me, the only reason I play games), then that comment is pretty irrelevant.


That's unreasonable to suggest violent videogames should be turned into cartoon graphics, an anaology of that is lets ban realistic porn and just have cartoon porn instead. Errm I know which one I would be watching.

games are supposed to be realistic, like cod4 and give you a sense of being part of war or a battle, living out a fantasy, similar to the way kids done 20 years ago when playing army with stick guns.( though I think that's banned now to) or pretending to be james bond, not feckin bugs bunny or the pink panther. expecting 20 to 40 somethings to play on cartoony graphics becuase of censorship is laughable.
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