A year behind schedule, can the PlayStation 3’s Cell shrug off vapourware claims?

Lets hope it is not delayed as much as GT4... the launch of PS3 might then clash with Xbox 3 !!!

I'm really starting to warm to the PS3 with all this interesting technology.

I would personally say that the PS3 will ship with 65nm Cells rather than the current 90nm prototypes.

If Sony release PS3 in early 2006 they may well disrupt Microsoft's sales. I don't think that the waiting game will work next generation, as most people would buy Xbox 2 and then PS3 as a second console if there's more than several month's gap. However, they may be able to scoop the market with excellent hardware and software if they launch mid to late 2006.

Anyway, I for one can't wait for Cell devices.

Sony Has invested several 100 million $ in the new Fiskill plant

If they use chips produce there the will be able to deliver PS3 months earlier

SONY would be crazy to wait for chips from their own plant.
est cost of 256 gigaflop cell $70-80

less than 20% of cells will be used in PS3's
TV's Camera's, automobiles, workstations, server's, cell phones, DSP's,.............

with the Xbox using IBM power proccessor's expect MS to port windows to power and the Xbox 3 to use the cell
Comparison 0f CPU's
Intel will also introduce its 3.73GHz 2MB Extreme Edition
in late February.
...................Intel..........Cell
Price..........$1,000.........$80
speed..........3.73GHz........4.6GHz
heat..........130 watts........30 watts
peak
performance..26Gflops.......256Gflops
Bus.............1GHz..........10Ghz
avail..........3 weeks..........4Q 05

Unless Sony vetos any contracts that would see MS being provided with Cell...

If MS chose to port Win to Cell, it'd be bye-bye Intel & AMD (assuming all the Win app developers follow suit and recompile their products for Cell)

Unless Sony vetos any contracts that would see MS being provided with Cell...

If MS chose to port Win to Cell, it'd be bye-bye Intel & AMD (assuming all the Win app developers follow suit and recompile their products for Cell)

Xbox 720, surely!

Or Xbox 4Pi.

I just see the whole cell thing to be a blackhole for Sony. They are going to have to sell a lot of cells just to make even on the deal. The amout of cells they would have to cell is humungous I doubt they can do it. If Microsoft doesn't allow Windows to run on it they will have even harder time selling. This could be the make or break for Sony but I think mostly break.

BTW, what does IP mean? People have been using this term to discribe games recently and I cannot find a single definition anywere.

Intellectual Property - ideas, concepts, creative output that is patented, copyrighted and basically owned by an individual or corporate entity.

These days it seems to be interchangable with the terms "brand", "franchise" and a bunch of others, which I'm not sure is entirely correct.

It also means Internet Protocol, but that's another thing altogether.

Crystal clear as always, Config.

In gaming terms:

Nintendo's IP: Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc.

Sega's IP: Sonic, Panzer Dragoon, NiGHTS etc.

Capcom's: Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Mega Man

I'm sure you get the idea.

I had a feeling that it was intellectual property, but because people were using it in very wrong ways to discribe things I thought it ment for something else.

IGN has a feature that said where are the original Ips?

Where are the original intellectual properties? just sounded a little fishy.

Thanks for clearing it all up :)

The cell will be a great success without windows
Every TV produce by Sony and Tos. in 2006 will hav a cell
cell phones will have a version of cell
every digital video or sound device could use a cell
The Windows market is only a small part of the over chip market.
by 2006 all game machines will use IBM chips that will blow away any intel PC.
MS has already change its XBox to Power because it is much better than anything Ibtel has to offer.
IBM Chips are going to dominate the server market.
IBM is selling it PC business to be able to sell chips to PC makers

Thats mostly your opinion and I will respect that. you have to understand that about 90% of all computers use a Microsoft OS. If they do not have any Microsoft backing on there chipset I highly doubt they will get very far with it, the chip is so abstract and different Microsoft would have to custom built an OS just for the chipset something I doubt they want to do for a direct competitor. Sony has a very weird quirk, they like to force there new technologies and when the find one that sticks they begin to try and take over the medium and eventually the market. Microsoft is a little more wise than most people give them credit for. They are not a greedy company the just know that one small mistake can compromise the company because one great idea outside of there company can ruin them, so they have to be involved in everything that they feel is not only profitable but also keeps the integrity of the company.

Sure Sony and Toshiba are making TV's with the cell chip but they are only 2 of many tv companies. Great TV Ideas have failed in the past, I am not saying that this is going to be one of them but the fact that they have ambitions that seem to stretch out further than what is normally acceptable in our culture. People in general will accept baby steps into technology but not huge jumps and with huge jumps comes huge prices something else people try to avoid when buying electronics.

just think, how long did it take for the mass to accept computers in there life? and how long did it take for the internet to become mainstream? the cell chip just seems to want to take things soo far soo fast that its going to be too much to swallow to fast. If any one of there promises fails the whole project can be doomed.

Also consider who won't use it: many an electronics company will refuse to use the technology. Heck, i doubt all the consoles will use it ever. Will Apple put it in iPods? Will it be in Creative's Zen range? Will Soundblasters use it? Or Nvidia Graphics cards? How about Radeons?

There is many a place it won't be found, and as such it's still got a lot of people to convince.

Companies can buy the chip from at least 3 companies
(I,S and T will al produce chips)
MS already announced that it will not support Intel true 64 bit Itanic (Projected 2004 sales 6,000,000 chips actual 2004 200,000 chips )
There have already been announced graphic Cards using the cell.
All 3 Major Game consul have already contracted to use IBM chips.
People will buy the Xbox2 because it blows away all existing game platforms including the fastest overclock PC's.
People will buy the PS3 because it will blows away the Xbox.
What about Nintendo?? Stay tuned.

You seem to forget that Microsoft made a version of Windows NT for both the IBM/Motorola PowerPC chip and the DEC Alpha.

Plus the fact that Intel's existing chip technology is reaching its theoretical limits of speed, and will require a paradigm shift that will require work on Microsoft's part if they wish to keep using that chip line.

Apple took a difficult decision and changed CPU architecture in 1994/5 when they moved from Motorola 68000 series to PowerPC series Chips. Microsoft will have to do something similar at some point, or they will be running on machines that are left in the dust.



Whereas Microsoft just buys and shuts down any competing technology, or use their market dominance to exclude it.



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Microsoft not greedy.
Babies not cute.
Water not wet.
Sky not blue.
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