Xbox 360: Full Final Hardware Shown Right Here!

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vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:22
Oh oh hey! Haven't posted in a long time. Seems you guys are on fire more than the Chelsea district of NYC. Can't we all just agree that all this hype is good for no one and we shouldn't be speculating so wildly. I'm glad at least the fanboyism isn't kicking in. We all know the 360 is going to be severely underpowered against the Revolution and more importantly the PS3. If 360 doesn't have a killer, and I mean Soul Calibur 3, a new DOA, a killer RPG, and some fantastic wacky new japanese game, I'm gonna laugh so hard no matter what Microsoft makes Rare throw at us. I'll make my judgement when I hear the offical line up. With all this tight lippedness, I bet it will be the day before the launch of 360. Oooh boy I can't contain myself! Oh what's that, you say I've been waiting for over a year now? Oh and I've been hearing all these great news exposes on the new systems all confirming me that the next round is going to be more powerful, utilize the most advanced technology, and that Nintendo is going to force me to wear a Doc inspired Back To The Future styled head piece and I'm going to gladly do so? Oh and your saying that everyone should shut up until some real news gets slapped on the table? Agreed, I guess I can wait. I could wait forever and it wouldn't matter. My personal tank has anti-hype mark VII style armor. I..., AM..., IMPERVIOUS!
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:17
Stryfe01 wrote:
He\She's right. Spong again claims an exclusive that is not. It was on ourcolony first, then on Kotaku. Then Gametab picked it up. I know this because all the other sites claim correct credit, yet Spong never does give credit to other sites.

Please point to the quote, with a link and everything where SPOnG claims this picture was our exclusive. Go on, I double dare you!

This image was not on ourcolony first either. The close-up of what appears to be the drive enclosure was on ourcolony, sure, but our story about that image mentioned that too.

The first mention of SPOnG and exclusive in this thread is from Smelly, who was most certainly using irony to imply that this wasn't a SPOnG exclusive (the slow hand clap points this out for the irony-impaired).

At no point has SPOnG claimed these pictures are an exclusive. We did mention in the Report: Microsoft Struggles to Regain Control After Leak Shock story that;
SPOnG wrote:
Frustratingly for SPOnG, we had been expecting to run images of the new Xbox 360 console as something of a scoop, with sources on the continent poised to release assets as soon as it was safe to do so.

Obviously, we were scooped by SomethingAwful's forum poster, this happens.

When claim we have an exclusive, we put it in the headline of the news story. Check for that before trying to refute our claims.
Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:22
Hey Vault, nice to see you back :)!

vault 13 wrote:
We all know the 360 is going to be severely underpowered against the Revolution and more importantly the PS3


I'd have gone for the other way around, personally. The 360 with it's several G5 processors (I think) and then the PS3 with it's PowerPC cell and the Revolution (probably) with it's single G5. After all Ninty aren't competing on power...
config
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2088 comments
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:33
Stryfe01 wrote:
He\She's right. Spong again claims an exclusive that is not.


WHERE THE FSCK DOES SPOnG CLAIM IT'S AN ***E X C L U S I V E*** ?


Just show me the line, the paragraph - anything.

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Um. You mean, it doesn't? You fscking T**T!
LUPOS
Joined 30 Sep 2004
1422 comments
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:49
[quote = shediesinred]I think spong gets all its “exclusives” off of IGN’s site. Cut and paste guys, cut and paste.


that my friend is a harsh acusation, especialy for someone whose livly hood is to be a reporter. Acusing them of ripping off a s**te hole like ign is rude, unfounded, and compleltly uncalled for.

shediesinred wrote:
Uhhh.. No actually.. what I mean is that this news was posted on IGN a good 2 days ago, almost every single new article spong posts is a rehash of something that was posted on IGN first days before. Even the E3 list was acknowledged as being directly taken from IGN’s site, admittedly by the staff at spong. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy both sites, but its true


ok, so it doesnt sound angry, my bad, but it does sound like you are acusing them of blatantly copying news from ign (liek ign is the source of all worth whiel info), i have an insider acount on ign (comes with a free year subsciption to EGM) so i can assure you i always check ign, just as often as i check spong, and anyone who is payign attention, knows i am here waaaaay to freakin much. Spong has stories before ign just as often as ign has them first. (maybe even more) you are acusign them of copying them. I enjoy Ign, but most of what they do is s**t, i just like beign able to get all the highres vids, especially with E3 comming. Anyway, IGN sucks, they are slow to update with new info, they post liek 2 freaking articles per day per system, and if somebody wants to talk s**t about them thats fine and dandy, in my time here spong has been amazingly acurate and often times informed me of things i would not have known about otherwise. I dont know how many times i have gone and talked to some of my friends and mentione dthings i that i had rea dhere and my friends had no idea.

long story short forgive me if i get defensive, but i think your acusation is completly unfounded. infact, both ign and spong have dates ont here articles, why dont you go and make a list of all the time ign has beaten spong to the punch by "days".


oh and sayign someone "copy and paste"s all of the articles and then geting called on it and saying "what I mean is that this news was posted on IGN a good 2 days ago" is back peddling. You went from saying they copy to just sayign they are slow. that to me is a back peddle... unless of course you do believe spong actually copy's their info. do you?

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vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:16
Are you kidding me?! Still with no hardware specs, your gonna claim that the PS3 and Revolution are going to be UNDERPOWERED by a year old system. Even if the 360 is amazing, Sony and Nintendo are just going to go back and make their's more powerful. It's like all the fanboys who claim PS2's graphics are better than X-Box. Sorry, not possible.
Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:23
The thing is that Sony and Nintendo will be designing their console now... with the same technology available that M$ has.

Prehaps the exception here is Sony, who can continue to develop their Cell processor, however Nintendo will def have access to the same tech as M$ have at the moment. Plus Nintendo want to sell consoles at a profit and keep talking about how power isn't defining.

This leads me to think that the Xbox 360 will have the best power, possibly on par with PS3, and Nintendo will have the least powerful console.

Finally, I expect a six month gap in-between the releases. Even if it was a year, the technology won't change radically during that time.
LUPOS
Joined 30 Sep 2004
1422 comments
Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:46
vault 13 wrote:
Are you kidding me?! Still with no hardware specs, your gonna claim that the PS3 and Revolution are going to be UNDERPOWERED by a year old system.


but my firend, was the 3d0 not a superior system to the porly designe jaguar? was the super famicon not more powerfull than the megadrive? (famicon came out in japan first and not in the us till after then genesis i believe)

also food for thought... i believe in raw processign powe the ps2 is capable of throwing around more triangles than a game cube can, the difference being that the game cube has buitl in textutre compression and shadders that alow aof of fancy texturing and things to go on without hitting the proccesor, allowing its games to look better.

not that i think the 360 will be stronger though, most rumors certainly point to the ps3 being on the level of charlse manson when it comes to rationalness (real word?). I do however think the 360 will be comparable or stronger than the revolution, as nintenod doesnt liek to loose moeny on systems and lieks to start at the lower price point, plus they have made several comments about how the next gen wont be about just graphical improvments, which leads me to believe they arent going to be out-doing anyone when it launches.

of course i woudl love for the 360 to be stronger and come out first, which woudl just make sony really look liek a bunch of chumps, but i dont think they are going to let that happen. DAMN i cant wait for E3!

hey spong! if you guys get me a press pass i will pay for the air faire and write on all the extra bits of info you dont have time to cover, never hurts to have another pair of hands (or eyes or whatever) around... i promise the spelling and grammar would be better than normal!

never hurts to ask ;)


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PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:05
vault 13 wrote:
Are you kidding me?! Still with no hardware specs, your gonna claim that the PS3 and Revolution are going to be UNDERPOWERED by a year old system.


And yet in an earlier post you said...(I won't even bother to point out that S and N will not have a year to do this, if any major changes are made they better be working on them tomorrow.)

vault13 wrote:
I'm glad at least the fanboyism isn't kicking in. We all know the 360 is going to be severely underpowered against the Revolution and more importantly the PS3.


You know what we all know?

Dude, could you be more of a Sony fanboy?

vault13 wrote:
Sorry, not possible.


We all know that now.

Which is it? Do we wait and see whats really going to happen? Or must we all acknowledge the clearly undenable facts you so eloquently present? (psst, I'm being sarcastic)

On a much more important and factual level, I understand (through x-s, wether its an x-s exclusive...dunno, dun care, didn't even look)

Xbox 360 controller will be Longhorn compatible!!!

Hooray! (From someone who enjoys using console controller for FPS) Oh wait, this is across the pond, innit...

Huzzah!

EDIT:If anyone cares this comes from TXB via X-S


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