Gaming A Disaster For Microsoft

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Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:57
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Soulxlight
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:02
I sure hope X-Box doesn't force Sony out of the home video game market, or we'd have another "Windows" on our hands. They would eventually corner Nintendo, and control all aspects of gaming. Controlling whatever you play, and at what price you play it. Competition is the best thing that could hold on the video game industry at the moment.
Xavia
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:37
Personally I use a PC to game, and then I am playing 10 year old games... But the Wii will be in my living room, when I can find one in a local store...

I will not buy a 360 as its a waste of money, my pc is faster, more portable and has better games...
cam
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:56
how about don't use wikipedia as a creditable source when deal with numbers or making accusations.
Jeff
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:04
Hasn't it always been this way? Microsoft's history shows a mentality of buying its way into a market, and using its financial prowess to force its way up from there. Will the 360 pick up more market share? Probably not, M$ had their chance by being the first one out with a next-gen console months ahead of their competition. The obvious fact that they're not dominating the console market shows how well the Xbox performs against the Wii and Ps3. Sooner or later someone in Richmond is going to decide they've dumped enough truckloads of money into their losing venture, and the Xbox will be 'retired'. Me myself, I'm going to pick up a Wii.
pawn
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:08
this entire article is a load of s**t... if anyone has ever gamed on the 360 you will know that the graphics/gameplay/and overall quality of the products that microsoft is putting out on this console are far superior to all of its predicesors. as far as the "entertainment value" of the Wii goes; it rocks... its a great time when you have 10 people over to create mii's and act like idiots!!! but as far as the online gaming (which is non-existent on the wii) and the graphics go... the wii doesnt hold a candle to the 360.

i cant speak on the PS3 since i dont feel like spending another 600 bucks to play games i can play on the 360... so i wont really attempt it... i will say, that i have owned previous playstations and i have enjoyed them alot (i put this in so sony fanboys dont get too upset with this post) but i will say that if your buying a PS3 solely for the 1080p feature, you might be spending a little too much $$$ for not a lot of reward (the 360 does 1080i and it looks beautiful!!!)

lastly i would like to comment on the post by Xavia... play a 360 before you start bashing it... and better yet... start playing games from this f**king century (yeah frogger rocks... but id rather play something with a little better story line) !!!

l8r
pawn
Jesse
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:09
Microsoft is in the game industry as a long term investment. They may be showing losses right now but the gaming industry continues to grow. Wait until the next round of consoles come out in 4 years or so. I imagine the next Xbox will also be a DVR or have on demand movie DLs which the 360 is dabbling with right now. As consoles become more of a central media hub for the house, they will become more appealing to non-gamers. I think Ehrenberg is failing to look at the long term, which is what any investor is interested in.
Lefty
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:10
The xbox will never be anything more than a niche product.

Dell is now returning to selling PCs with XP (and starting to sell PCs with Linux).

Google is creating an online Office suite.

Apple has the trojan horse, the iPod, and has created a roach motel system whereby legacy Windows switchers will never buy a Windows OS system ever again after going Mac.

And Ray Ozzie and his SharePoint tech are going to 'save the day' at MSFT ?!?

Whoever doesn't conclude 'DISASTER' doesn't want to face the music.....
pawn
Anonymous
Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:25
hard core means staying up all night fragging someone over XBL (XBox Live) and sacrificing showers for game sessions and getting every acheivement XBL has to offer to improve your gamer score. i dont see grandma smith who bought a Wii as hard core because she can wiggle her Wiimote when her grandson comes over. the idea that the Wii is dominating the market because it appeals to all ages is a farce and a lie that will be revealed with time as only the nintendo fanboys will be left standing by the end of that system playing metroid prime over nintendos version of XBL. being hard core means BEATING a game and owning all others who try to take your title. since the wii has no online competition (yet... i will admit) it is harder to "out wario" your friends on warioware (sigle player game) or "out zelda" your friends (yet another single player game)

i own a Wii and i hope it stays around a long time... but i agree with the previous persons post, that hardcore gamers will define the path of a system and where the future of gaming will be (it most definitely will not be by some f**k at forbes magazine, thats for sure!!!)

l8r
pawn


TheScottishAlien wrote:
what actually constitutes a "Hardcore Gamer" anyway? if your talking about a system the provides games and graphics that prevent the user from leaving the screen and experiencing the world for real then the PS3 and Xbox 360 are exactly what they want; however don't these "Hardcore Gamers" also want fun original games and ideas that allow them to experience gaming in a completely different way? We've become so stuck with the idea that gaming involves sitting down and using a multi-button controller in order to mimic activities within the game. what Nintendo has done with the Wii is not "... succeeded in reaching a new audience" but rather opened up an entirely new way of looking at games. "Hardcore Gamers" may find solitude in their small controller and large couch, but now that the idea that gaming is less about mimicking activities and rather actually doing the activity more and more of these "Hardcore Gamers" will move towards the Wii.
realvictory
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Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:03
pawn wrote:
hard core means staying up all night fragging someone over XBL (XBox Live) and sacrificing showers for game sessions and getting every acheivement XBL has to offer to improve your gamer score. i dont see grandma smith who bought a Wii as hard core because she can wiggle her Wiimote when her grandson comes over. the idea that the Wii is dominating the market because it appeals to all ages is a farce and a lie that will be revealed with time as only the nintendo fanboys will be left standing by the end of that system playing metroid prime over nintendos version of XBL. being hard core means BEATING a game and owning all others who try to take your title. since the wii has no online competition (yet... i will admit) it is harder to "out wario" your friends on warioware (sigle player game) or "out zelda" your friends (yet another single player game)

i own a Wii and i hope it stays around a long time... but i agree with the previous persons post, that hardcore gamers will define the path of a system and where the future of gaming will be (it most definitely will not be by some f**k at forbes magazine, thats for sure!!!)


I don't think someone who plays FPSs at night instead of having a shower is necessarily more hardcore than a grandma who owns a Wii, thanks.

It is a bit hypocritical saying that the fanboys left standing by a "system" isn't hardcore, yet whinging about how good XBL is, is hardcore.

I don't understand what there is to be proud of about being called a "hardcore gamer." Firstly, it sounds stupid, and secondly, it doesn't make any difference what people call themselves - the only difference is that some people define themselves as "hardcore" and some don't, and in some cases, it's just another word for "fanboy."

Neither would I agree that it's about beating other people - since when did people have anything to do with it? It's about the computer and me, and nothing else, that define how "hardcore" I am. Playing games because other people play them is not hardcore: at best it means you have an excuse to be playing games; at worst, it means you're playing games just because your friends are. If your friends are real people, then you are perhaps not that hardcore?

On the other hand, it sickens me slightly how easy it seems for any company to chuck some money around, launch a games console, and spontaneously pick up such dedicated fans.
agw
Anonymous
Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:39
I don't think the 'hardcore' define the path of where a console goes any more than the guy with the club crest tattooed on his belly determines where a football club goes. By the definition given, the hardcore are the 'elite' (or smelliest); that is, the smallest group of paying customers. The future of gaming is where the money is - not satisfying a niche group.
Ted Rawly
Anonymous
Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:03
Microsoft should have stuck to its guns and supported PC gaming instead of imitating Sony and Nintendo in order to sneak their "set top box" into homes. It would have had better results. With PCs MS doesn't need to sell the hardware at a loss, it could have just published the games. But ofcourse, that's not what MS was really interested in. They're after that "set top box" fantasy.

So far MS has screwed up both with consoles and with PC gaming (thanks to the Vista fiasco). The Games For Windows Live extortion scheme will be another loss for MS. Consumers generally don't like crap (once they realize it's crap!), and that's what MS is trying to shove down their throats.

I guess MS doesn't care. Unlike other companies that must produce quality products to survive, Microsoft with its Windows & Office cash cows, has billions to burn.
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