Capcom Classics Collection - Information Gradually Leaking Out

Arcade vs. console and more – speculation from horse's mouth.

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At Capcom Gamer’s Day held last week in Las Vegas, the highlight of the show, probably much to the firm’s displeasure, was Hiroshi Tobisawa’s announcement that Capcom Classics Collection is in the works.

Absolutely nothing specific was mentioned other that Capcom will be evaluating and porting some of its treasured - if a little dusty - IP to current home consoles.

Speaking to a Capcom representative today, SPOnG discovered that the entire project is still very much under wraps. However, a few titbits regarding Capcom’s thinking were on offer.

We were informed that Capcom Classics is likely to form a series, with various offerings bundled together and being released over time in multiple, related packs. We asked about expected content and any possible split between historic console and arcade titles, and were told that more than likely, Capcom will port sets of games on a per-platform and per-arcade board basis, which brings the CPS2 revival dream a little closer to the eternal Capcom hardcore faithful.

SPOnG doesn’t expect anything concrete for some time, though an E3 announcement is deemed likely. Stay tuned.
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schnide 8 Feb 2005 12:11
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Capcom in reusing old IP shocker!!!!!!!!!!111
NiktheGreek 8 Feb 2005 14:58
2/16
Don't underestimate the power of a retro collection, Sonic Mega Collection Plus is this week's all-formats #1.

My CPS2 dream package would include Giga Wing, Progear, Pocket Fighter, Mars Matrix and Street Fighter Alpha 3 (amongst others), but this could be bit of a nightmare to get rights for because of the involvement of Cave and Takumi in the development of certain titles.
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Joji 8 Feb 2005 16:40
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I reckon it will be more like a beat em up collection of Final Fight 1,2 and 3, Captain Commando, Aliens vs Predator and Knights of the Round all arcade ports for one price.

Then a shoot em up collection of say Area 88, Eco Fighters, Forgotten Worlds, Varth, 1942 and Pro Gear on another.

Make sure there are some of those CPS2 games that we missed, if little known fighter Martial Masters is included it's a definite buy (i'd buy them anyway). Some online play in some of these would be very welcome

Sonic Collections are selling on nostalgia and good value for money. It's very rare that we get this kind of deal these days and should be applauded by all. Even Ignition are offering a good deal with the KoF beat em ups. Just wish Nintendo could learn from Sega and Capcom and stop ripping us off with the insulting one game a cart GBA classics range.
NiktheGreek 8 Feb 2005 16:48
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Joji wrote:
Just wish Nintendo could learn from Sega and Capcom and stop ripping us off with the insulting one game a cart GBA classics range.

I hear that. I keep saying this, but Nintendo should operate a service like this Sega one. It's not as if putting the files online will increase illegal online distribution, given the widespread nature of it already. Oh, and Sega should bring this to Europe, too.

I find it deeply saddening that the last half-decent retro package Nintendo produced was the Zelda bonus disc, which they made a pain to get (I missed out on a Stars Catalogue copy due to their decision to release it during working hours).
ohms 8 Feb 2005 17:04
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Joji wrote:
Just wish Nintendo could learn from Sega and Capcom and stop ripping us off with the insulting one game a cart GBA classics range.

NiktheGreek wrote:

I hear that. I keep saying this, but Nintendo should operate a service like this Sega one. It's not as if putting the files online will increase illegal online distribution, given the widespread nature of it already. Oh, and Sega should bring this to Europe, too.


Revolution should have built in Emulation of all NES, SNES and N64 roms, and Nintendo could just make them available to download, for a small fee, or some older ones even free, to flash mem cards or something.
Emulation is one of the main reasons people I know bought and chipped their XBOXes, to play SNES and N64 games (as well as Arcade). If Nintendo are smart, this could really be a Revolution, making Retro Emulation go mainstream, and legally too.
NiktheGreek 8 Feb 2005 17:33
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ohms wrote:
Joji wrote:
Just wish Nintendo could learn from Sega and Capcom and stop ripping us off with the insulting one game a cart GBA classics range.

NiktheGreek wrote:

I hear that. I keep saying this, but Nintendo should operate a service like this Sega one. It's not as if putting the files online will increase illegal online distribution, given the widespread nature of it already. Oh, and Sega should bring this to Europe, too.


Revolution should have built in Emulation of all NES, SNES and N64 roms, and Nintendo could just make them available to download, for a small fee, or some older ones even free, to flash mem cards or something.
Emulation is one of the main reasons people I know bought and chipped their XBOXes, to play SNES and N64 games (as well as Arcade). If Nintendo are smart, this could really be a Revolution, making Retro Emulation go mainstream, and legally too.

Nintendo could just as easily do this with the Gamecube, of course. They've got a working N64 emulator for the system, and with a GBA media player in the works that takes SD cards, a similar Gamecube memory card is just as feasible (and I'm pretty sure it's already been done anyway). It'd be a perfect use for the under-supported online functionality of the system. Hell, team up with Apple and call it iGames.

It's also something else that Sega has done (with Mega Drive and PC Engine titles via Dreamcast), as you can see by clicking here. Incidentally, 150 yen is 77p (though it was closer to 90p at the time), and 50 less than the 200 yen (£1.03) charged for Sega History capsule toys.
Joji 8 Feb 2005 18:48
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True, the only way too tackle emulation properly is to make it legal to download the games for a price. Just like music it's clearly a needed service but one which many seem to think is rocket science to do. (There is a clear business chance here someone)

There is that possibility that like music people will still download rogue emulators, but the challenge is there to offer gamers a fix that they can't get anywhere else for a good price. In the future if not with DS and PSP, I'd like to see legal emulators built into or downlloadable from the net and onto those systems. When this happens and the roms can be used away from the PC legally, is when things will begin to change.

Namco, Sega, Hudson and Capcom have all produces compilations, some spanning from the PS1 era so where the hell are Nintendo's? I absolutely refuse to buy the NES Classics. So one at Nintendo is making some weird and tight fisted decisions. Things have gone bad at the top of NOJ since Yamauchi left (and that covers several bad decisions for them as well as this one). The GC Zelda games were a good start but it looks like Nintendo have lost interest now by not doing more.

Next I'd like Konami and Tecmo to sort out some nice compilations.

Conclusion to all this is the fact that we do want short but sweet games again, like we used to back in the day. Bring on those lovely compilations.
vault 13 8 Feb 2005 21:32
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Joji wrote:
Martial Masters
<--There was more, I cut it.

Wow I can't believe someone else remembers that game too. I rocked with the chick with the short skirt and blonde hair.

ohms wrote:
Emulation is one of the main reasons people I know bought and chipped their XBOXes, to play SNES and N64 games (as well as Arcade).


ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME!? Do you really know people who paid $300 for an overpriced emulator!? Haven't they heard of the small invention called the MOTHERfuckING GODDAMN COMPUTER? It's got more support too. I would just really hate to the think people were tossing money away just to play some Atari Tank!
Newtynho 9 Feb 2005 06:18
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I'm more interested in the Megaman X collection, especially if they include the 6 first games of the series, as I think they will.

I'd definitely buy this classics one if they included all or most of these : Final Fight 1 (2 and 3 sucked), Dungeons and Dragons 1 & 2, Captain Commando, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, King Of the Dragons (arcade version), Chiki Chiki Boys (I like this game, you may laugh now), Star Gladiator (I never played it and i'd like to try it), Strider (the original), Final Fight Revenge, Power Stone 1 & 2 (not old, but already "classics")!
kid_77 9 Feb 2005 09:18
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vault 13 wrote:
ohms wrote:
Emulation is one of the main reasons people I know bought and chipped their XBOXes, to play SNES and N64 games (as well as Arcade).


ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME!? Do you really know people who paid $300 for an overpriced emulator!? Haven't they heard of the small invention called the MOTHERfuckING GODDAMN COMPUTER? It's got more support too. I would just really hate to the think people were tossing money away just to play some Atari Tank!


I doubt people bought and chipped an XB just as an emulator. I imagine they installed the Media Player and bought games too. The beauty of playing retro games on an XB, is that it really is like having all the old consoles (and arcades), with the entire catalogue of games, in one box (well, it's got room to fit them in!). All you do is press the ON button and away you go. You don't have to boot up Bindows, you don't need TV out.
Arse McAdams 9 Feb 2005 10:42
11/16
vault 13 wrote:
ohms wrote:
Emulation is one of the main reasons people I know bought and chipped their XBOXes, to play SNES and N64 games (as well as Arcade).


ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME!? Do you really know people who paid $300 for an overpriced emulator!? Haven't they heard of the small invention called the MOTHERfuckING GODDAMN COMPUTER? It's got more support too. I would just really hate to the think people were tossing money away just to play some Atari Tank!


Absolutely - this is easily worth the price of chipping + a new hard drive. And then you've also got a networked media player.


davemcbridesfoot 9 Feb 2005 11:19
12/16
NiktheGreek wrote:
Don't underestimate the power of a retro collection, Sonic Mega Collection Plus is this week's all-formats #1.
titles.


Frescetta i got Street Fighter 2 anniversary collection for a score note last week and it kicks the ass of all that tekken/virtua fighter blarney. The cheesy early 90s sound effects are delicious

NiktheGreek 9 Feb 2005 18:57
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davemcbridesfoot wrote:
NiktheGreek wrote:
Don't underestimate the power of a retro collection, Sonic Mega Collection Plus is this week's all-formats #1.
titles.


Frescetta i got Street Fighter 2 anniversary collection for a score note last week and it kicks the ass of all that tekken/virtua fighter blarney. The cheesy early 90s sound effects are delicious

Since they often tend to feel quite different despite having the same basic concept, I don't often compare 2D and 3D fighting games. Thus, there's room in my PS2 collection for both Hyper Street Fighter 2 and Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution.
vault 13 9 Feb 2005 19:43
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kid_77 wrote:
I doubt people bought and chipped an XB just as an emulator. I imagine they installed the Media Player and bought games too. The beauty of playing retro games on an XB, is that it really is like having all the old consoles (and arcades), with the entire catalogue of games, in one box (well, it's got room to fit them in!). All you do is press the ON button and away you go. You don't have to boot up Bindows, you don't need TV out.


I understand that. But it didn't even occur to me that I had an urge/desire/interest to know how to hack my X-Box. I want my X-Box to play console type games that push the limits of imagination. I leave the emulation to the PC and it's much more versatile too. I also fear for all the future intergration which leads to digital rights management red tape which is such a headache. If we keep telling Microsoft and Sony that we want all-in-wonder machines in our living room, we'll be living under one company, mp3s for all (who legally buy them each time they want to listen to them)

For a somewhat relavent instance: when I download songs to my iPod, I cannot retrieve them back off the iPod without a third party program. If I buy songs off iTunes I cannot burn/copy/move them to more than one source. It's limiting what I can do with MY things. I bought an iPod, I should be able to do what I want with my music.

I'm straying, but I guess my point is that I think everyone who bought an X-Box had a computer before and was emulating on it. I don't see why we needed to crack open a new device and move everything there and become X-Box dick suckers.

Also, the more we use our gaming machines in new ways, the more companies will make those a part of the next line which would cut down on actually graphics development and design. I'm assuming here.

Oh I probably should just erase this post and start over.
kid_77 9 Feb 2005 21:47
15/16
I think the main reason I prefer my Xbox modded is that I have all my media needs (bar the Internet) through one medium. I don't need to hassle myself with multiple TV inputs: It's Digital TV transmission and Xbox (MP3's, DVD's, Games, Emus). The XB emulators don't have any technical improvements over their PC counterparts (they're mostly PC ports anyway). So I guess it's a case of whatever configuration suits your lounge best.
vault 13 9 Feb 2005 22:40
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kid_77 wrote:
I think the main reason I prefer my Xbox modded is that I have all my media needs (bar the Internet) through one medium. I don't need to hassle myself with multiple TV inputs: It's Digital TV transmission and Xbox (MP3's, DVD's, Games, Emus). The XB emulators don't have any technical improvements over their PC counterparts (they're mostly PC ports anyway). So I guess it's a case of whatever configuration suits your lounge best.


As long as no DRMs get involved, it's a really good idea.
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